Monday, November 5, 2012

Monogamy Monday- UK vs USA Part II

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I LOVED the response on UK vs USA Part I,
so I am excited to see what you all have to say about the following differences.

leading up the wedding and ceremony differences:

Bridal shower:
It is a USA thing.
There is no such thing as a bridal shower in the UK.
You just have a bachelorrette night/weekend (aka Hen Do)
There are no baby showers either.
I know. shocking.

Wedding cars:
In the UK, The bride and father of the bride arrive in their own car to the church.
The Bridal party and mother of the bride arrive in another car at the church.
(these cars are usually hired/rented...like an old bentley or limo etc)
When I mentioned in my last post about going to view our wedding cars,
this is what I meant.


Bridesmaids:
In the UK Bridesmaid traditionally walk BEHIND the bride,
but I have seen a couple weddings where the bridesmaids go in first.
I, personally, prefer the bridesmaids to go in first,
 because then I feel like when the bride enters, all eyes are on her.

Chief Bridesmaids (UK) /Maid of Honor (USA):
In the UK the MOH goes first instead of last when walking down the aisle.

Time:
*This may only be applicable to the weddings I have attended and in Stephens town, and a church wedding*
The wedding ceremony almost always starts in the afternoon...
typically between 12:00-2:00pm
Stephen has never ever heard of a wedding ceremony starting in the evening (like a sunset wedding).
We seem to be stepping outside of the box by having a 1:00pm ceremony instead of 12:30.
(we are so wild)

Church Wedding/Civil Ceremony/Blessing:

Let me break it down for you.
Getting married in the church in the UK is very difficult/different if you want a church wedding.
I would compare it to getting married in the Catholic Church in the USA,
except these rules apply to all christian denominations in the UK (that I know of).
Most of the time it is required that you and your spouse to-be are members of the church and have regularly attended that church.
If you are not members, it helps if one of your families are members, or you grew up in the town where the church is located and at SOME point in your life went to that church.
You have to meet with the Minister to get approved to be married in the church and then have regular meetings with him.
A Minister cannot marry you outside of the church walls
 (so no garden/beach weddings are done by an actual minister).
If you don't want to get married in the church, or can't,
you have a civil ceremony performed by a registrar.
A Registrar cannot marry you inside the church.
If you want, you can opt for a civil ceremony and then have a church blessing,
where you go to the church after you civil ceremony and the minister will bless you.
For us, having a civil ceremony was not an option and we are getting married in Stephens hometown church.

phew. that was a lot of information.


"You May Kiss The Bride:"

In a church wedding in the UK, the "you may kiss the bride" portion does not come at the end of the ceremony like it does in the USA.
It is done somewhere in the middle.
This totally confused me the first time I saw this happen.
I personally am still not a fan, but that is probably because I am so used to that being the climactic ending.

Signing of the Marriage License:
This is considered the most important part of the ceremony in a church wedding.
Towards the end of the ceremony,
the bride, groom, their parents, and bridal party are taken to either a private room,
or to a table in the church,
where they sign their marriage papers.
During this time, music is played by a string quartet, or someone sings a couple of songs.
Then the couple comes out, a little something is said, I think a hymn is then sang and then another little something is said, and then the bride and groom exit.
The order of things is a little fuzzy to me, and I think is different depending on the church?
But that is roughly how it goes.


Uninvited Guests:

*This might be only applicable to very small towns in the UK*

Uninvited guests often show up outside of the church to watch people enter the church and exit the church.
Some of these people even take pictures.
In Stephen's hometown this is a very big thing.
If they wanted, they could even sit in the church and watch the ceremony.
Some people may know the bride and groom through distant aquaintences,
or some may not know either of them at all.
I think this is sort of awesome/hilarious.
We spoke to a bridesmaid at the wedding were at this weekend,
and she said the more people that show up to watch, the more important the wedding,
and if there arn't any towns people that come to watch, it's not a good sign.

Hats:
People wear them.
I LOVE it.
The mother of the bride and groom are expected to go all out with a big hat.
As an American, I of course think this tradition is so cool,
and I hope my american guests embrace it.
I should make it a requirement or something ;)


Thoughts??
Likes/dislikes??

55 comments:

  1. I've been to two British weddings and everything you said is spot on :) I was shocked when the bride walked in first and was even more baffled when the whole wedding party left for like 20 minutes (i'm sure it wasn't really that long) to sign their certificate. My friends told me it was totally normal, though!

    The last wedding I went to (earlier this year) I bought myself a fascinator to wear, which just made the whole experience much more fun!

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  2. I SO want big hats to catch on here in the U.S. Maybe we can start a blogger movement....

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  3. Mostly agree although where I live in England it is normal to have baby showers, but I think it is still a new modern thing. (My parents never had them).

    I wish we had bridal showers!

    I love the bit at the end about people turning up and if you don't have many people turn up then your wedding is not that important haha! I think that probably only goes for small villages where everyone knows each other?

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    1. I know! no pressure or anything right?? haha. I think this is probably just a small town/village thing though.

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    2. It also happens if you're part of a church where everyone knows you. I'm in Central London and b/c our church itself is small, it's packed to the rafters with everyone from the congregation PLUS all the friends/family of both sides when someone who everyone .. umm.. likes gets married ;)

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  4. I love that mother of the bride and groom are expected to wear hats..I don't think we do enough fancy hat wearing in the US! I've always heard that getting married on the half hour is good luck, but we didn't do that either, our ceremony was at 6pm. Loving these wedding posts!

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  5. Love these posts - and coming from NI I can confirm that its not just co. down towns that have the randoms showing up. I was in church for one of my husbands friend's weddings in the summer in our home town in co. antrim and quite late on (the ceremony had started) a woman sat down beside me very casually dressed, and then asked me who was getting married...I had to refrain from laughing too loudly! Kinda makes me glad I got married on a private estate, but even then we had to leave extra seats if anyone wanted to randomly turn up (apparently its a legal right to attend even if not invited, probably to allow for the person whos going to 'speak now or forever hold your peace' bit!)

    The only thing I did differently for my own wedding than tradition was that I walked up the aisle last and we also were a massive exception to the rule in that a minister married us...NOT in a church! Turns out it isn't illegal for them to marry you anywhere they like, in fact if you get a good minister you can pretty much pick anywhere of your choosing, outside/inside etc etc, whereas registrars have to marry in specific pre-registered places. However the issue is that many ministers churches don't encourage them to do this, kinda an unwritten rule, so they just don't. Thank goodness we go to a non-denominational church and have a minister who is pretty easy going!

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    1. Oh you got so lucky!! I would have pushed a bit more for marrying outside an actual church building by a minister if i wasnt so nervous about the weather (after this summers horrible weather i didnt want to chance it next summer) AND Stephen really wanted it to be inside his church. I think his minister is probably one of the ones that wouldnt do it outside the church anyway (reformed church). I think the whole thing is so interesting though, since it seems in the US (in the christian churches) anyone can marry you anywhere, or in any church. But the UK is a lot more traditional when it comes to church in general.

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  6. I loved watching the royal wedding and seeing all the different practices. I wish you a lot of hats and towns people! :)

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  7. I thought that the MOH always goes last in the US too. It's sweet that the townspeople show up for weddings. And the hats, you should definitely make them a requirement, they always look so fun!

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    1. you are right. i mixed them up. The MOH goes first instead of last in the UK.

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  8. so actually technically I think that weddings are "public" ceremonies in all churches, even in the States! as for the rest... boh.

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  9. I love the idea of the hat. What does your mom think? As Americans, I feel like your guests will love the chance to try something new that is widely accepted.

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  10. Love reading these! Seems like we do things pretty similarly in South Africa to the UK; with the exception of the bridesmaids walking after the bride.

    Indian weddings, though, get all kinds of crazy -- my aunt (a South African with Indian heritage) had 1200 people at her wedding; anyone was free to come! Crazy.

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  11. You are gonna have so many townspeople at your wedding! I know it.

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  12. Wow, that's a lot of info! I like the hat idea! I want to wear one for a wedding here in Canada but I'm afraid I will get strange looks.

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  13. Some sweet and lovely traditions again - it is so weird and wonderful how different countries have different ideas on the same things!! Haha :)
    In South Africa:
    - Bridal showers (hens party's) and baby showers are a MUST!!
    - Wedding cars aren't such a big thing anymore because most of our wedding venues have a chapel and reception venue so you just walk...
    - Bridesmaids always walk ahead of the bride, she definitely needs and deserves her moment
    - Time, our weddings are late in the afternoon from 2.30pm - 4pm to allow for a short ceremony and then dinner function nd great sunset light for photos.
    - Church ceremony is almost the same as the UK
    - Kissing the bride is always at the end, I agree with you - all for the grand climax!
    - Signing of the license is also towards the end
    - Uninvited guests are a huge NO-NO!! It is just rude!
    - Hats are also a NO-NO - this is left for the English Royal weddings
    x

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  14. Loved reading this post! It's so interesting to learn about the different cultures. I think I'd love the hat tradition - it sounds like so much fun. I'm pretty sure we couldn't get away with that in the US.

    Lauren
    http://laurensweetnothings.blogspot.com/

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  15. Very interesting about not allowing a minister marry you outside of the church. I think I'd be too nervous having too many strangers watching me! Lol
    I love the hat idea though!
    And we had our ceremony at 10:30! It was a pain getting up early, but I have to say it was so nice to be done by 4pm so we could enjoy that afternoon sleeping and lounging around in our room with room service food lol

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  16. i found the whole getting married in church thing so difficult and we ended up getting married by a registrar and then having a blessing in the chapel but to be honest everyone thought we had got married in the chapel, they didn't know any difference.

    and i am glad you are embracing the hat trend--nothing makes you feel fancier than a hat or fascinator.

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  17. When I was preparing for my wedding here in the UK, I was also surprised by how long the ceremonies and festivities were. I came from a religious tradition where the ceremony was typically 15 minutes and the reception was cake and punch and lasted about one-two hours. My wedding started at 2 and lasted just over an hour. We had a 2 hour drinks reception at which time we did pictures and then visited with the people not invited to the full reception. Then we had a full dinner (buffet) reception with dancing that lasted until 11 pm. Some of our guests partied on even later after we left. Since we did everything at our local church, it was all affordable and one of the best parties I've ever been to!

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    1. UK weddings are LONG! its a full day event!

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  18. It's the same in my bf's town where we are now living. All of the little old Basque ladies come out to gossip about the bride and her dress and he says more people would come to our wedding because I'm a foreigner and it's something different from the ordinary!

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  19. SO! The kissing thing totally threw me off during the Royal Wedding, so I'm glad you explained this to me. But like. It's still weird. And interesting about the chief bridesmaid...very interesting.

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  20. I think you should just film your entire ceremony and post it on here. Sure, that might be slightly (or a lot) intrusive, but it was be FASCINATING.

    I wish the hat trend would catch on in the U.S.

    Do UK weddings usually happen on a Friday? For some reason that sticks out in my head.

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  21. My cousin is getting married to an English guy in England next year and she sooo needs to see this! Seriously- way informative and thorough. I'm going to show it to her!

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  22. the bridesmaids walking up after the bride is allllllll wrong.

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  23. I was in Ireland in August and on a night out in Cork we saw a fair amount of guys dressed up in ridiculous costumes. The best was the Fred Flinstone, huge plastic feet and all, dancing an Irish jig to the trad music at a pub. Later we heard someone talking about hen do's and so I was wondering if you had any insight into whether that was why these guys were dressed up? There were never girls dressed up anywhere we went. If so....I wouldn't object to seeing photos of Stephen in some cliche American costume for his bachelor partay.

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    1. it is REALLY common for guys to dress up for their stag do-s here (bachelor parties). Im not sure why? But usually when they go out they either all dress up, or just make the bachelor dress up in something totally rediculous. The girls will sometimes wear crazy things, but they usually just dress very scandalously. typical. lol

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  24. Love the hat idea! I would totally make it a requirement. -Heidi http://fabricandfrosting.blogspot.no/

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  25. i agree with the whole you may kiss the bride thing... definitely the big climax part and i don't think i'd be in a stable emotional state after it to keep standing up there going through vows and what not

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  26. Love love love the hat thing!! I will wear one at home that day in honor of y'all. Haha. It may be baseball hat, but still, it's the thought, right??

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  27. Love love love the hat tradition! Soo fun! How awesome would it be if all your guests wore hats?!

    xx
    Giovanna
    www.oliveandanarrow.com

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    1. ugh..one can only hope. I can at least count on most women on Stephen's side wearing them.

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  28. I have to confess, I've been comparing everything you say in these posts to watching the Royal Wedding last year. that's pretty much all the experience I have with British weddings. :) there are so many things that make more sense now! I don't know if I necessarily agree with a lot of these British customs, but that's probably because I'm American - I'm sure the British think it's perfectly logical to have bridesmaids enter the church after the bride.

    in other news, obviously I'm not invited to your wedding but I will gladly wear a fancy hat around all day in celebration. I think this hat thing needs to catch on in the US! maybe we bloggers can make that happen?

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  29. haha all these differences are so cool! I like reading about them. So crazy how different cultures are, ya know? Like, I know that in China the bride wears red, not white, to the wedding. White is reserved for funerals. Crazy, huh?

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  30. i love these posts! our wedding was so british and i didn't even know it at the time! :)

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  31. I usually think of British culture (and I'm generalizing here) as being emotionally reserved. Maybe that's part of the reason for the elaborate hats and costumes at stag/hen dos. Regardless, I'm a big fan and unapologetic enabler of both traditions. I hope many pictures follow!

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    1. that is a pretty good observation actually.

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  32. Ok, my BF was a groomsman in a wedding this weekend here in TX where the groom was from New Zealand. Apparently the Signing of the Certificate is also a BIG deal in New Zealand as well (according to his best man who still lives there). My BF from South Africa says it is a big deal there too! SO maybe, just like with math, we are the only ones who do things differently here in the US.

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    1. USA...always trying to be different...lol

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  33. LIKEEEE.. no no LOVEEEE!

    I want to have a destination wedding in Ireland with Tiel, since our families heritage is Irish. :)

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  34. Oh no! No bridal shower!?? That makes me sad. Although, I have been to some very lame/awkward bridal showers in the past, mine was so much fun! It was just a simple brunch with all the women I love and it was perfect!

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  35. Um I love the idea of a party after the reception for everyone!!!!

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  36. I love these comparisons! And seriously...I'm ok with no bridal showers and what not. That shiz gets expensiveeeeee.

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  37. So glad you did this post! So fun to see the differences. Can't believe the bridesmaid walk in behind the bride-seems so strange. I like the bridesmaid walking in first, because then the bride gets her moment and special song! I can't imagine the big kiss not being at the end either.

    I do love the Hen Do- sounds so much better bachelorette. Way more classy!

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  38. Hi Megan, I am a new follower and loving what you have to say. This post and the last one really amused me. I'm American and my fiance is American but both of my parents were born in England and they have never been to an American wedding. So I am planning my wedding with my mom and I feel like we are blending the UK traditions with the US traditions (two bridesmaids but the US procession style). It's really amusing for us to discuss the differences. And I'll ask her about the father-daughter and mother-son dance and she doesn't know what I'm talking about. Also the timing of the receptions are different, i.e. first dance is usually after dinner in the UK and after the introduction in the US, but I think this is really changing here in the US also. Fun stuff!

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    1. Hi Victoria! You are absolutely correct about the father daughter dance and when the bride/groom dance! We actually went to a wedding in N.Ireland this past weekend and the bride did the father/daughter dance and Stephen said it was the first time he had ever seen that done, and didnt know what i was talking about when i mentioned it awhile ago. So funny the little differences!

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  39. Hats for everyone!!!
    (I'd love a good excuse to splurge on a fancy hat) :)

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  40. The kiss is the absolute last thing in a USA wedding? Like, you kiss, everyone claps and you walk away from the altar? Really? How did I not know that if that's true?!

    Ceremonies in Canada are very similar to the UK (and many other places it seems!) in that you say your vows, kiss the bride, and then sign all of the wedding documentation while some music plays for your guests.

    After that, depending on the type of ceremony you're having, another prayer may be said, more words can be shared, and/or a final reminder can be shared with guests about the day. For example, "The couple invites you to share in drinks at 6pm at X location, followed by dinner and dancing."

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    1. haha yes! the kiss is the very last part of a USA wedding. The minister or whoever says "you may now kiss the bride" and they kiss and everyone claps, then their exit music plays and they exit the church/building etc!

      What you described is exactly what happens in the UK.

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  41. Yes to hats. Love them. I mourn the day that hats stopped being a 'must' (I don't think my riding hat counts?).
    My sister-in-law was surprised when a whole bunch of people she didn't know turned up at the church (inside & out) to witness the blessing of her marriage to my brother. In a village like the one my parents live in it's completely the norm - we've lived there forever, so the onlookers included people who've knew my brother in some tangential way for his whole life - and I think people feel rather snubbed if no 'randoms' show up to their wedding!
    Also, watch out (in a good way) for chimney sweeps - their presence on the wedding day is considered to bring luck to the marriage.
    No idea how I know that.

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  42. Oh in Ireland everyone turns up at the Church, it's a big day out even if they don't know you!

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